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MELVIN
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From:VASS, NC, USA
Registered: Mar 99

posted 12-20-2000 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MELVIN   Click Here to Email MELVIN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I AM PRESENTLY PUTTING A NEW GM CRATE IN MY DADS 79 EL CAMINO. WE ORDERED ONE OFF THE NET, 1200 BUCKS, AND IT ARRIVED BY 18 WHEELER IN 3 DAYS ($120 FOR SHIPPING). YOU WILL FIND MANY SITE THAT OFFER THIS MOTOR

ITS RATED AT 220HP, AND CAME COMPLETE MINUS FUEL PUMP, INTAKE, DISTRO,WATER PUMP. ITS THE BASE LINE GM 350 CRATE, AND I WAS SURPRISED
AT THE HP OUTPUT (I WASNT AWARE OF IT WHEN ORDERED)

NOT REBUILT, BUT NEW. 1 YEAR/50K MILE WARRANTY.

I WAS THINKING, IF I HAVE TO SWAP OUT MY DADS L-48 (A 79 AS WELL), THATS WHATS GOING IN IT AS WELL. FOR 1200, YOU JUST CANT BEAT IT

USE YOUR OLD INTAKE/DISTRO

JUST THINK, BEFORE YOU PUT IT IN, YOU COULD ADD A HOTTER CAM, INTAKE AND SUCH, AND YOUD HAVE A GREAT NEW MOTOR

JUST FYI

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Tex71BB
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From:D/FW TX area
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posted 12-20-2000 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tex71BB   Click Here to Email Tex71BB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Melvin-

In the January 2000 issue, Chevy High Performance magazine did a feature on this motor. They added Chevy Vortec heads, Performer RPM intake, Comp Cams XE-268H-10, roller rockers, 1 3/4" headers and a Holley 750 and turned out 408 HP and 430 ft.-lbs. torque. They didn't give the total cost, but the heads are only about $400 complete, so I'm guessing just a little over $1,000 in addition to the crate motor. Sounds like a lot of bang for the buck!

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'71 Mulsanne Blue Coupe
LS-5, 4-spd, chambered pipes, & a few suspension upgrades

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MELVIN
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posted 12-20-2000 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MELVIN   Click Here to Email MELVIN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW, THATS ALOT CHEAPER THAN THE 350CID/350HP CRATES OUT THERE. MAKES YOU THINK, DONT IT?

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Tahos
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From:Garland Texas
Registered: May 99

posted 12-20-2000 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tahos   Click Here to Email Tahos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Melvin,
Sounds like a good motor for a ElCamino but a Vette? Does it have four bolt mains?
Tex71BB,
I guess I will have to get that Chev High Performance magazine again.I dropped it but it is far better than some of the corvette magazines I get.

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MELVIN
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posted 12-20-2000 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MELVIN   Click Here to Email MELVIN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
COULDNT TELL YOU IF IT HAS 4 BOLT MAINS OR NOT. REGARDLESS, I DONT THINK IT WOULD BE A BAD REPLACEMENT FOR A VETTE REGARDLESS. LOOK AT MY 427 L-36 DOES IT HAVE 4 BOLT MAINS?, NOPE

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TedH
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posted 12-20-2000 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TedH   Click Here to Email TedH     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It has 4-bolt mains. The 220hp rating is very conservative. I think CHP found 250hp at the flywheel. Definitely the BEST NEW 350 for the dollar for any 1986-earlier Chevy. Responds very favorably, as found in CHP to the standard engine hop-ups. I wish I had gone this route when I rebuilt but wanted to keep my 'numbers matching' (even though the car isn't likely to ever wander near Bloomington or elsewhere for judging).

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TedH
'80 Candy Apple Red Coupe & '01 Pewter Coupe - Always Waving!!!

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DonCavaliere
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From:Scarborough, Ontario, Canada, Silver Shark, 1979 L48, Auto, No a/c, NCRS Member, NCRS Ontario Region Member, Corvette Club of Ontario
Registered: Feb 2000

posted 12-20-2000 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DonCavaliere   Click Here to Email DonCavaliere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
melvin
what was the website? sounds like an engine that will provide a lot of smiles.

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Larry82
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From:Texas
Registered: May 99

posted 12-20-2000 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think this is the one that I replaced my blown crossfire with. It is known as the LM1. Ostensibly, it is rated at 250hp. This is with open headers, Qjet.

Dyno 2000 with my specs (i.e., as close to a crossfire manifold as I can get) gives me 246hp at 4500 rpm and 338tq at 3000 rpm. I have port matched my intake so I don't think I loose much if anything with the dual tbi's. Whether or not that is right, I can tell you that the car is much, much faster than a stock motor crossfire. It is a 4 bolt main. Head chamber is 70cc rather than the 72cc of the original motor (whoopee!).

Have played with a cam change and can get 305hp and 383tq at rpms of above.

Nice motor for the price.

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chrisgable
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From:Grand Rapids, Mi. USA
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posted 12-20-2000 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chrisgable   Click Here to Email chrisgable     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would look into a Performer pkg on it or something like that. I dont know that the Vortecs will give you hood clearance. I checked into putting those on mine. Trick flows are cheaper than Edelbrocks though about 800

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TedH
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posted 12-20-2000 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TedH   Click Here to Email TedH     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've found that Scoggin-Dickey in Lubbock Texas has very agreeable prices and a very helpful engine department:
http://www.sdpc2000.com

A few particulars from SDPC for this engine:
Engine Name: 350 LM1
Horsepower: 249 HP @ 5,000 RPM RPM
Torque: 304 Ft/Lbs @ 3,500 RPM
Compression Ratio: 8.50 to 1
Block: 4 – Bolt, 2 Piece Rear Seal, 4.000” Bore
Crankshaft: Cast Nodular 3.480” Stroke
Heads: Cast Iron, 72cc
Valves: 1.940” / 1.600”
Camshaft lift: 0.390” / 0.410” Hydraulic
Duration @ 0.050”: 195° / 202°
Intake: Not Included


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TedH
'80 Candy Apple Red Coupe & '01 Pewter Coupe - Always Waving!!!

My Homepage (thanks forum!!!)
http://www.corvetteforum.net/c3/tedh/

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gtr1999
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From:CT
Registered: Aug 1999

posted 12-20-2000 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gtr1999     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the old Targetmaster motor that came out in the late 70's. I bought the first one for $800 and the second one for $1,100.00 from local Chevy dealers. I'm still running it in my 69. It has good performance reliability,runs on 89 octane without a problem. I installed a double roller chain before installing it. I plan on putting in a 268 cam and performer intake with 1-5/8" headers. I'm not sure what this run for HP but I'm guessing 325, maybe more.
Gary

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Wallingford,CT
'69 350,4 spd,3:36 conv.Blue,Black, White top
'72 350,TH400,3:08 coupe War Bonnet Yellow/ Saddle leather.

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Ed-79
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From:Connecticut
Registered: Oct 2000

posted 12-20-2000 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ed-79     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bought this engine for my vette after reading the articles in CHP. If anyone is interested, there is a picture of it on my web page. So far I have swapped out the cam and ported the heads. Would love some aluminum heads but decided to put that money into the side exhaust first. Maybe next year??? Got mine from Scoggin Dickey (via internet) for $1289. Anyone in the market for a rebuildable '79 L-48?

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'79 Dark Teal
Rusty frame
Oil slung everywhere
Still my baby
Ed's '79 Vette Web page

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