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ddecart
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VD Lab MI

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 Which cylinder heads do you have?Reply to this post

I was browsing through the GM Goodwrench Performanc Parts Catalog and found some Fast Burn alum heads that are a bolt-on 30 hp for a ZZ4. So now I'm drooling for them.

I'm curious to know who's using which heads.

Here are the fast-burn ones: https://www.spoperformanceparts.com/store/catalog/Product.jhtml?PRODID=680&CATID;=671

quote:
This head can be used on any 1958-99 283-400ci small block Chevrolet V8 engine with conventional water flow design...
The name "Fast Burn" refers to the head's ability to quickly and completely burn the air fuel mixture, resulting in higher cylinder pressures and more power.
This head is a bolt-on 30 hp increase when used on our ZZ4 crate engine. When tested on a 383 ci small block engine with 9.5 to 1 compression ratio and .540" lift roller cam, single plane intake manifold and 750 cfm Holley carburetor, the Fast Burn heads produced 497 hp at an incredibly low 5800 rpm.

Anyone else drooling yet?



[Modified by ddecart, 2:59 PM 3/17/2002]



Online Poll » Results

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Edelbrock Performer RPM (20%, 16 votes)
 
Stock heads (15%, 12 votes)
 
Trick Flow 23 Degree aluminum heads (12%, 10 votes)
 
AFR 190 or 210 (11%, 9 votes)
 
Sportsman (7%, 6 votes)
 
ZZ* engine with stock heads (5%, 4 votes)
 
S/R Torker (3%, 3 votes)
 
"Camel Hump" heads hogged out to 1970 LT-1 specs (3%, 3 votes)
 
Trick Flow "Twisted Wedge" (18i/23e degree) aluminum (2%, 2 votes)
 
GM Vortec Heads (Cast Iron Fastburns, with smaller valves and weak springs) (2%, 2 votes)
 
brodix track1 (2%, 2 votes)
 
Dart Pro 1 (2%, 2 votes)
 
Canfield 195 or 220 (1%, 1 votes)
 
041's out of a 69 370hp vette ported and polished (1%, 1 votes)
 
New gen LT1/LT4 (1%, 1 votes)
 
Dart Iron Eagle 180cc intake runner, 72cc Chamber (1%, 1 votes)
 
GM Fast Burn (1%, 1 votes)
 
Pro Active Lightning (1%, 1 votes)
 
Holley Systemax (0%, 0 votes)
 
(77 total votes)

RoyArms
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124 posts [100%]
Gulfport FL

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 Re: Which cylinder heads do you have? (ddecart)Reply to this post

I am putting the Edelbrock Performer RPM heads in next week.
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1978 Pace Car
350 chevy crate motor (dunno, thats what came in it)


74vetteman
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Calgary

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 Re: Which cylinder heads do you have? (RoyArms)Reply to this post

Pretty happy with my afr 210's
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74 4-speed 406ci. 494lb/ft, 476 hp.

damac
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portland, OR USA

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 Re: Which cylinder heads do you have? (ddecart)Reply to this post

Ddecart,

I have a set of ported world sporsman II heads. They are good heads, but I wouldn't buy them again.

I think that there are really only two ways to go. Either get the Vortec heads (which probably flow better than the fastburn heads) or get some AFR heads. The Vortecs are great heads and dirt cheap at $400. The AFR's are consistently the best heads, but kind of pricey at $1,100, but well worth the $$. If you really want to make great HP, the AFR's are the best and they really aren't that expensive if you figure HP per $$. Every dyno test I have seen has shown these to be the best performing heads. I wish I had known more when I bought my sportsman II's.

Mike
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65 327 coupe. Now 406. World Sportsman II heads, 10.5:1 compression, MSD 6AL, hooker Super Comp Headers, RPM cam, Air-Gap intake, Demon 750 carb, 2.5 inch exhaust with X-pipe and Dnyomax Ultraflow mufflers, 17 x 7 Torque Thrust II's, TRW rear springs, big swaybars, Konis, 4:11 gears and lots of smoke. Best et of 13.66 @100mph in 3rd gear (et is with #'s 327 now in storage, hoping for low 12's with 406)

pats406nitrovette
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galloway,new jersey

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 Re: Which cylinder heads do you have? (damac)Reply to this post

sportsman2 heads also im happy with them so far,but like damac said id go with something else if i do it again.
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1973 2002 electron blue midnight blue interior.msd billet tach drive dist. msd6a,3.70,rpm airgap intake,holley750,2 1/2 exuast flowmasters,125 shot nos,sportsman2 heads..(building new short block)


SteveG75
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855 posts [100%]
Middletown RI

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 Re: Which cylinder heads do you have? (pats406nitrovette)Reply to this post

Was seroiusly considering the AFR heads. was about a $500 premium over the RPM's and would have taken 6-8 weeks to get. So, ended up with the RPM heads.

But, my builder does not put them on stock. They get them bare from Edelbrock then pocket port, valve job, stainless Ferrea valves, Comp Cams springs, etc. So, overall, I am pretty happy.
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Steve G.

Was: Daily driven 1975 L-48/4spd/FE-7 convertible

Now: Daily driven 1975 355/5spd/FE-7 convertible

Current mods: Rebuilt L-48 (355), Performer RPM heads, XE262 cam, 1.6 rockers, Edelbrock Performer 2101, rejetted and recurved by Lars, true duals with Dynomax CeramaCoat headers, Tremec 3550, BeCool radiator, Spal dual fans, '81 seats, TRW spring, American Racing AR-136 rims 15x8

Plans:VB Performance Plus and Steeroids R&P; kits, when I am back out of the red.

sharklover
Cruise-In III Registrant
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2143 posts [100%]
Terre Haute IN

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 Re: Which cylinder heads do you have? (SteveG75)Reply to this post

I've been considering new heads for quite some time. I'm considering replacing the Performer RPM with the Performer Air Gap since my cam is kind of weak and HP peaks at 4500. No point in having the RPM and dealing with hood clearance if the cam won't produce the power where the RPM helps. I'll probably get heads (still undecided on brand) and intake and then gasket match them before installing. Then I'll have a Performer RPM for sale, cheap. Of course, that's a year or so away so I have a lot of thinking to do. I was thinking Sportsman II's until I read this thread. I'm sure I'll post a question just before buying.
joeveto
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Cuyahoga Falls, OH OH

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 Re: Which cylinder heads do you have? (ddecart)Reply to this post

I'm running stock right now. But I'm leaning towards the Vortecs. For the performance level I'm looking for, and the money, these heads can't be beat.
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77 L-48
Corvette Light Blue on Smoke Leather
01 Mitsubishi Montero Sport
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95 Huffy Ten Speed
Cobalt Blue with black vinyl seat
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sharklover
Cruise-In III Registrant
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Terre Haute IN

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 Re: Which cylinder heads do you have? (joeveto)Reply to this post

You need a different intake manifold if you get vortec's, right? Just checking to be sure.
ylose
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778 posts [100%]
East Troy WI

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 Re: Which cylinder heads do you have? (sharklover)Reply to this post

I am running the RPM package....love em
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1978 L-48 Custom Corvette Coupe full RPM package
estimated over 400HP/400TQ via desktop dyno

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ZD75blue
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NC,USA

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 Re: Which cylinder heads do you have? (ddecart)Reply to this post

stocker 882's
vettedan
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Bonney Lk, WA. USA

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 Re: Which cylinder heads do you have? (ddecart)Reply to this post

LT1, I guess thats obvious!
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1976 Stingray W/'95 LT1/4L60E 16" Torq Thrust II W/Yoko 255/50, Vette Brakes front mono spring suspension system with 1-1/8" front sway bar & 3/4" rear sway bar. VETTEWORKS C3 Harness Bar and fire extinguisher bracket, Autometer 5" Pro Comp Electronic Speedometer/tach and VAT alarm, Blaupunkt San Jose MP41 MP3/CD player. MSD 8.5 plug wires, Part Number for the American Racing wheels I have is 5056861. Best 1/4 mile so far is 13.600 sec @ 100.25 MPH.
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verskel
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177 posts [100%]
arlington, tx, usa

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 Re: Which cylinder heads do you have? (ddecart)Reply to this post

454 cast iron heads from a '72 - might be square port fr. 365hp motor ?
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bud snyder
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kennett square,pa,us

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 Re: Which cylinder heads do you have? (ddecart)Reply to this post

Well,
From the poll I guess i am the only person with Fast burns. They are OK, but I seriously doubt i would buy them again!
New intake and should have new headers to match exhaust port locations. I am some what convinced that you need a roller cam similar to the Hot cam to see their potential.
I think i would get Dart alum.
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StrayDog
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Ipswich,Mass,USA,Home of the Clam.

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 Re: Which cylinder heads do you have? (ddecart)Reply to this post

put a set of Alum ENDLEBROCK oval port,on my 66 427, 4 years ago, very satisfied / worked for me..............AS a matter of fact the GM alum heads now available are " EXACT " duplicates of the ENDLEBROCK heads......probably made for GM by Endlebrock.......... amendum I cant spell.....

[Modified by StrayDog, 6:01 PM 3/18/2002]
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2001 Navy & Oak & Oak Convertable,Z51,315 Gears,HUD, ProFlow Cold Air System & Racers Wedge Air Filter, best run,"stock" 13.13 @ 104.74 1966 Roadster, Black on Black, Best run 13.7 @ 102 MPH.... 427, .030 over 433 Cubic Inches, Side Exhaust, Alum Edelbrock Heads, 780 CFM Holley, TRW Forged Domed Pistons, MSD, Roller Rockers, & more. ,9.5 compression & 308 rear gears, WOOF ! WOOF! [=http://corvetteforum.net/classics/richf/dog4.jpg [URL=http://corvetteforum.net/classics/richf/dog4.jpg]http://corvetteforum.net/classics/richf/dog4.jpg

Jim73
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Huntersville, NC

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 Re: Which cylinder heads do you have? (StrayDog)Reply to this post

I've had vortec heads for about 2 years. Easy swap too. Just need to install the correct cam for my setup, and I should be good to go.

Regards,

Jim
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1973 Georgia Bulldog Red Convertible
(*Car has been converted to 1980 Model*)The car GM should have built
350ci;4-speed;vortec heads;carter 625cfm carb;edelbrock vortec performer intake;dual 2-1/2" exhaust with dynomax ceramic coated headers and 16" electric cooling fan.
251HP & 310ft-lbs torque at the rear wheels (297HP & 366ft-lbs torque at the flywheel)

bud snyder
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kennett square,pa,us

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 Re: Which cylinder heads do you have? (Jim73)Reply to this post

Jim 73,
I am curious and have been asking alot of questions concerning HP & Torque loss through the drive train. I noticed in your signature you list both fly wheel & rear wheel numbers. How where they determined? Engine & Chassis Dynos?
Thanks,
Bud
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Rare green 76 [url=http://www.corvetteforum.net/c3/bud_snyder

74ZZ430
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Toledo,Ohio,USA

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 Re: Which cylinder heads do you have? (ddecart)Reply to this post

I'm using the GM fastburn heads with the GM hot cam and 1.6 roller rockers, and custom made headers to fit the raised exhaust ports and am very pleased , will be going to the 1/4 mile shortly. I would expect high 12 to low13s.
corvette kid 427
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Oxnard CA

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 Re: Which cylinder heads do you have? (ddecart)Reply to this post

I've said this before and I'll say it again to help any Corvette enthusiast who is interested in buying new heads. Pro Action, AFR and Dart Pro 1's are the best small block Chevy heads going these days. AFR is probably the leader in the 23 degree area while Pro Action makes the wild 14 degree that has revolutionized the drag and circle track scene.
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